Episode 46: From $30M to $350M: The Growth Formula with Joshua Leatherman
In this episode of The Freedom Experience, I sit down with Josh Leatherman, Chief Marketing Officer at Service Express, who has played a pivotal role in scaling the company from $30 million to over $350 million in revenue.
Josh shares how he built a high-performing marketing team, why revenue operations is the "Switzerland" between sales and marketing, and how experimentation, accountability, and specialization drive scalable business growth.
We explore his R&D mindsetโ"Rip Off & Duplicate", the importance of aligning marketing and sales, and why marketers must be insatiable learners to stay ahead. If you're struggling with marketing ROI or trying to build a predictable revenue engine, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you.
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Key Themes
๐น The Power of "Rip Off & Duplicate" (R&D)
Josh explains why you donโt need to reinvent the wheel โ instead, learn from industry leaders, implement what works, and focus on one channel at a time to drive revenue.
๐น Revenue Operations: The Bridge Between Sales & Marketing โ Josh shares why RevOps serves as a neutral, objective team that ensures alignment between sales and marketing, eliminating friction and creating a data-driven system for scaling revenue.
๐น Accountability at Every Stage of the Funnel - Marketing and sales must own their roles โ every lead, every account, and every stage of the funnel should have clear accountability to ensure conversion.
๐น The Ideal Team Player: Humble, Hungry, Smart โ Josh reveals how he builds high-performance teams by hiring curious, adaptable, and driven people who thrive in a fast-moving environment.
๐น Mastering One Marketing Channel Before Expanding โ Instead of spreading your budget thin, get exceptionally good at one channel (SEO, intent marketing, paid search, etc.), optimize it for ROI, then scale.
๐น Identifying & Hiring Natural Learners - Josh discusses why hiring naturally curious and self-driven marketers leads to long-term success, and shares how he identifies high-potential talent in interviews.
Quotes from the Episode
๐ฌ "Rip off and duplicateโsomeone else has already figured it out."
๐ฌ "Revenue operations is the Switzerland between sales and marketing."
๐ฌ "Fail fast, learn faster, and scale what works."
๐ฌ "Marketers must be insatiably curious."
๐ฌ "If you donโt know what good looks like, how can you hold others accountable?"
Links & Resources Mentioned
๐ Service Express Website: https://www.serviceexpress.com
๐ Connect with Josh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshleatherman
Actionable Takeaways
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Adopt an R&D Mindset โ Learn from industry leaders instead of reinventing strategies.
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Leverage Revenue Operations โ Use RevOps to align sales and marketing for predictable growth.
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Master One Channel First โ Specialize before expanding into multiple marketing platforms.
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Encourage Small Experiments โ Fail fast, learn fast, and scale proven marketing efforts.
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Hire for Curiosity โ Seek out marketers who are lifelong learners and adaptable.
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